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This whole thing makes me angry! and scared and gloom-filled, too.

Ok, my first reaction is: Who Cares? Let them rot. I want justice and I want revenge!

My second reaction is gloomy fear. I wonder about the effects of convicted rapists after they are released. Unless rapists are locked away forever, we had better think very carefully about the post-punishment reality. If they are going to be a part of the general population after they serve their sentence, their prison experience could certainly not be more poisonous an experience.

Overall i think 'recovery' for convicted rapists would be difficult in any case. Especially since, in the United States at least, maximum security prisons are places of unparalleled sexual violence and brutality: for many inmates rape is an essential part of everyday life. Even if a prison had a brilliant and highly effective "rehabilitory program", prison environment is so rife and saturated with daily violence I would hazard to guess that American prisons create more rapists than they could possibly rehabilitate.

I think there is probably a much greater chance for recovery for someone who committed second- or third-degree assault, then for someone who exhibits predatory instincts and who has committed numerous acts of rape combined with significant violence and sadism.

Shit. Overall, this is depressing.

I reckon part of the solution is reforming prisons. Also, post-prison tracking and surveilance seem extremely important. Therapy really might help some rapists, but it's no cure all or panacea.

Troy

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Okay, I know I'm going to catch flack for this but here it goes;

I think anything is possible. If the individual really is SORRY and wants to change...get help..whatever.. I think they can change. True most of them will NEVER change but I truly believe some of them can.  I believe society and the way they were raised made them that way.

*T*  Our society has allowed pornography to flourish... topless bars..peep shows...hookers...magazines...#### even the "decent" magazines don't leave much to the imagination! Have you noticed the cover of the magagines now a days? At what point do we say society shares some of the responsibility for what's happened? Sorry.... rambling on.. this is a sore spot for me.  Just forget I said anything.

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if society was solely responsible for makeing rapists the way they are, we'd all be rapists, b/c we're all exsposed to society.

 yes society's misinformed and twisted versions of things it presents as truth don't help the problem, but we all hold PERSONAL responsiblity for how we veiw soceity's messages, and what we do with those messages.

this goes back to nature vs nuture, and like that debate with everything else, they are not mutually exsclusive.

as for rehab-ing them... i'm not really sure there is anything WE can do to rehab them... they can change themselves if they have the reason, drive and desire to do it, but it is not something that can be forced on someone, or even carried out in the same way for different people.

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Admittedly, I haven't read everyone's posts but the way I see it there's only one way to ensure that someone won't rape ever again, and that's to castrate.  Unfortunately, the judicial system doesn't condone this course of action.  So, here's what I think:

Nobody can be rehabilitated unless they want to be.  I don't imagine that too many rapists really want to be rehabilitated, as they obviously do it because they want to.  I've never heard anyone say "I didn't want to rape her, I just couldn't control myself."  I don't know, just my opinion.

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Jasmine,

Never thought of that way...GOOD point!

You have just reaffirmed my position with the, so called, "rehabilitation" of sex offenders. Not that I needed it, but thanks for your perspective!

Trin

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*T*

Do I think offender can be rehabilitated?

Yes.....

I was raped in high school by my boyfriend and his best friend. I never reported it. It was a horrific ordeal that tooks me years to come to terms with and destroyed just about every relationship I ever had. I joined the Army to get away from it all and I was terrified to come back to my home town after I got out of the Army. But after a 4 years of being away, I came back.

One of the guys had left town, in college or something, I dont really give a crap about him, this isn't about him. The other guy (the best friend) was still here. I would see him around town. He couldn't look me in the eye. He looked ashamed.

I was at the park one day with my son and he was there, he was with his daughter. And my son and his daughter were playing together.

He came over to me, sat down next to me and said "I know this doesn't mean much after all this time, but I'm sorry for what I did. I was stupid and I should have gone to jail, but you didnt tell anyone. I wish I could take it back. I know you hate me, I know that I shouldn't even be sitting here talking to you, and I dont deserve your forgiveness. I just wanted you to know that I regret it every day."

We were 16 years old when it happen, 6 years later I forgave him.

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i dont think for one minute that these people can be rehabilitated. :angry: god this bugs the hell out of me cause iv been told that my so called father who is in jail for what he did to me will be geting 2half years taken of his jail time cause hes been doing well in all the programs hes been asked to do in there.an he has been good.THIS IS BULLSHIT im sorry but the only reason hes doing the sodding programs is cause he knows he will get out sooner.he wont be any differant when he gets out.this man is a disgrace an a danger to all kids an its a shame that the law does not open its sodding eyes to these people....rehabilitation,,,what a joke.sorry for going on but it really does my head in. :angry:

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errrrrrrrrr im sorry to come back an add more but i think yesterday i was proved right .you cant rehabilitate these people.i saw someone yesterday who has a friend who is a worden at the prison were my so called father is an she asked her if she new him.an her answer was,,,,yes hes done 2 rehabilitaion courses an hes now saying he has done nothing wrong.wtf.he admitted it in court thats why hes inside but because hes done these courses he still gets out early.what the hell.hes going to come out of there just the same ,he has not took anything from the courses thay made him do.im dreading him coming out.he is a danger to all kids

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A couple of days ago I might have said yes, but now that something like this directly effected me, I don't know, and I'm rethinking a lot of views in my life right now.

If I had the choice of the person being healed and never doing it again, or being dead, I would choose being dead. Better yet I would prefer he be locked up in jail and have the things he has done, have done to him every day for years and years.

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PartlyCloudy

I think rehabilitation is impossible. Rape isn't a "normal" crime. It's like comparing a crime of passion (wife kills cheating husband) to a serial killer who hunts and tortures for pleasure. One is a "normal" and understandable albeit tragic crime. The other is beyond comprehension. Rape is the serial killer version of a crime. My opinion is a mind that inhuman is beyond help.

There may even be understandable reasons in a rapist's background that explain their behavior, however, I think by the time they rape it's too late. The mind, the morality, the essence of what makes that person human, is bent beyond repair.

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*T*

Do I think offender can be rehabilitated?

Yes.....

I was raped in high school by my boyfriend and his best friend. I never reported it. It was a horrific ordeal that tooks me years to come to terms with and destroyed just about every relationship I ever had. I joined the Army to get away from it all and I was terrified to come back to my home town after I got out of the Army. But after a 4 years of being away, I came back.

One of the guys had left town, in college or something, I dont really give a crap about him, this isn't about him. The other guy (the best friend) was still here. I would see him around town. He couldn't look me in the eye. He looked ashamed.

I was at the park one day with my son and he was there, he was with his daughter. And my son and his daughter were playing together.

He came over to me, sat down next to me and said "I know this doesn't mean much after all this time, but I'm sorry for what I did. I was stupid and I should have gone to jail, but you didnt tell anyone. I wish I could take it back. I know you hate me, I know that I shouldn't even be sitting here talking to you, and I dont deserve your forgiveness. I just wanted you to know that I regret it every day."

We were 16 years old when it happen, 6 years later I forgave him.

You know what, I have been hoping and praying that would happen to me someday ever since it happened. He was my boyfriend and I truly don't believe that he KNEW that what he was doing was rape. I think he truly saw it as him expressing his love for me. But apologies go a super long way for me. They always have.

As for the question at hand, no, I do not believe that rapists can be rehabilitated.

Less than a month after I got away from my rapist, he raped one of my close friends.

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BehindTheWall

Who cares? Just throw them in general prison population and let what happens happen. I really don't understand why theres no death penalty for this stuff.

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I can't speak about rapists, that's outside of my experience.

As far as pedophiles are concerned, there is treatment and control (limited) but NO REHABILITATION. Pedophilia is INCURABLE.

And from what I understand, this has been proven in studies.

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Rehabilitation is possible if not probable. In other words, female perpetraitors tend not to re-offend as much as male victims, and they are that. Typically, they have been abused as well. Why men tend to repeat probably goes to society and the surpressing of male emotions, whereas females can express and perhaps realize they are repeating the cylce they experienced, more readily. I have never raped anyone, nor would I, but I am a human being who has sinned and done things people would consider disgusting only to change. Change is possible and real, just as God is in my opinion. I know there is a lot of pain on this board and others of this type, but as survivors you can get to a place of forgiveness and let go of the anger. As long as you stay angry and immobilized, the perp wins and that must be avoided at all costs. I wrote a biography about siblings who were molested and I consider them champions, because they have survived and forgiven; they have moved on with their lives. It's called No Ordinary Lady and available on create space or kindle if anyone is interested. At my lowest point in life, I don't understand why I did some things I have done, unless it was to learn a lesson that this could happen to anyone. Be angry for a while, but don't let it or any act a "sick" person has done to you retard your personal growth-that may or may not have been the goal. Regardless in life we must never give up the fight no matter how tough or what we have been through. Sometimes family and friends don't understand and they want to blame the victims which is a real shame. But as people, we all have shortcomings. Therapy does work if you put the effort in. No child should take credit for what an adult does. People have often taken out their frustrations on family, which isn't right. There are no perfect human beings. But I honestly applaud all of you and pray that you continue to be the champions you are. Never give up. There are people who do recover and live wonderful lives. Anger prevents, forgiveness opens doors. Do whatever it takes...If there is one person who has then you can. If you feel unsure, do what it takes to become assured. There are martial arts classes, yoga, therapy, and on and on. Turn over every stone because you deserve it. God bless all of you.

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